J. Myracks: you learned a lot from having more exposure to like a larger corporation and kind of seeing the ins and outs of their business which is probably helpful for what you’re going to do in the future as well. I don’t want to make it a negative conversation, but are there any low lights that you experience if you can talk about it?

Evin Groves: Frustrations that I would have, like hey a hip-hop music producer needs X Y and Z features, we need these things and I felt at times those weren’t priorities for them. It was about hey, let’s hurry up roll it out, let’s you know… let’s see how it can… I want it to make as much money as possible was more of the priority than what I was after. I’m a hip-hop producer at my core first so I need those things for a hip-hop producer addressed in this product…

Some of those things we’ll find out in the future… because some of those things that they probably push back on, maybe they were right… like I don’t know. I don’t have all the answers. And yeah there was some push back there on things that I wanted to see for the culture and our audience.

J. Myracks: I can completely relate to that because that’s that’s kind of what I experienced at native [instruments] as well. Obviously the market is bigger than hip-hop and we kind of have to have some balance in the approach. But I also kind of felt like in some ways the data says that hip-hop still has the greatest market share of music consumption, so I would expect that there was a little bit more prioritization on the needs of the hip-hop culture since it is the dominant Market in music. That was always a challenge for me as well, so I can completely relate. But who knows, maybe those decisions were the right decisions in the end as you said, we’ll see… but yeah I can relate to you for sure!